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- There has been a lot of debate on "advertising" recently and there are activism groups trying to spread the message to stop advertising. I understand the points, that advertising can clog up the space on their profile and be pretty annoying, but honestly can't you read past it or slide through it if it's not important, or maybe delete it if it's way too excessive? I had to deal with the spam myself a ton too, probably more than anyone in that group, but I didn't mind too much. Advertising is a free right and banning advertising and f4f chips at free speech. I am not promoting advertising - people should learn good etiquette and respect others' comments...but the activism groups seem to be going for brute force and honestly that seems like glorified advertising. The word doesn't even make sense now with how people are describing it. Banning "advertising" would be hurting free speech. Not very tolerant.
- The term on Scratch "advertising" really needs a new name. People are defining it as just posting links on others' projects or profiles. Sometimes it can be disrespectful but that is too specific and if you broaden it to the actual definition of advertising in real life,
"attracting public attention to a product, business or idea with announcements in the media"
then so many other things could be considered advertising, like the front page or favoriting certain projects that you prefer over others. This gives more power to famous people because more people pay attention to them and when they favorite certain projects or make certain studios with any agenda they gets more attention than other agendas. In reality the famous are and should be no different-leveled people than commoners in terms of opinion, value and vote.
Going back to the ""Scratch advertising"", many people who post the links are actually less violent than the ones preaching against it with activism and hate speech against people who likely put effort into their projects (a lot don't, and they should learn some etiquette and watch some tutorials to improve) and people who just want to have fun and be free on Scratch.
To add to that thought, if someone is more violent and disrespectful than an advertiser, aren't they also breaking the community guidelines (more)? Maybe they should be respectfully directed to the rules.
On Public Forums:
- A public forum is a website where the people can upload content to the site without too much regulation from the site owner. Scratch is a public forum, just like YouTube. YouTube has money involved so there are actual "advertisements" but the definition of "advertising" is "attracting public attention to a product, business or idea with announcements in the media" and to be honest at the moment the activism movement folks preaching against the Scratch version of "advertising" are acting much more violent than the link posters themselves, and take up more space in the comments than the advertisers.
- People say Scratch is not about popularity and is instead about learning programming. That's true and is a very good thought. So, 1.Scratch is a public forum and people should use it the way they want without being too extreme and 2.If Scratch is not about popularity, why does F4F matter? Okay, maybe it's not the best thing ever but people still have the right to do it for any purpose. They probably shouldn't become the most popular person on Scratch but what is the limit of freedom before it becomes too powerful? Although, what can you really do being the most followed Scratcher anyway...influence people? Well that goes back to the idea that famous people's opinions are no more valuable than commoners' so really it doesn't matter; just let folks have fun.
- I don't want this to turn into 2016 Part 2 but this is not really about politics it's about how we can try to understand the popular concepts of Scratch. I'm not trying to promote advertising or F4F, I'm against not having freedom, and I'm trying generate positivity about the current situations. I think the reporting of some innocent Scratchers is pretty over the top - some of them have bad intentions but a lot of them don't - they're proud of their project and want some end results. Spamming 17 messages in a row with a pointless project should be discouraged, but that is not a problem with advertising, it is a problem with the etiquette of those people, and this problem cannot be fixed by a fame group, only with drastic measures by Scratch but then Scratch would drift away from being a public forum. Instead I think it will pass in due time every few years.
And yes, you can advertise here. I'm not going to take away your right to do it, or on my profile, or any of my comment sections.
But please think a little carefully before doing so, maybe?
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